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Inspirational instruments / The Metzler at Trinity College Cambridge
« on: June 08, 2017, 08:39:06 PM »
It's a real pleasure to hear Radio 3 devoting time to an organ recital - and with David Goode playing Bach on the Metzler at Trinity there's real inspiration.

The history of the instrument is on
http://trinitycollegechoir.com/media/filestore/articles/OrganHistory2.pdf

I saw reference to its "idiosyncratic" tuning and this was music to my ears. Bach really comes alive on the Metzler and http://www.cambridgeorganacademy.org/bachand.htm relates that it's tuned to Werkmeister. If only more instruments were tuned to systems with perfect fifths . . .

Best wishes

David P

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Many French, Italian and Maltese instruments of the 18th century are single manual so looking at Couperin and contempories might be the answer.

What these instruments lacked in tonal variations was made up by key, key changes in colour tuning. So it might be an idea to get the instrument tuned in Kellner, Kirnberger or Werkmeister temperaments. This opens up a wide variety of tonal colour beyond that which stops provide.

Best wishes

David P

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House Organs / Re: Baron Albert de L'Espee
« on: May 27, 2017, 12:22:48 PM »
What an amazing figure! Thanks so much for bringing him to light.

I found details of the village above Grasse near Cannes but haven't found reference to his place yet, and nothing about his place in Antibes.

http://www.paysbasque1900.com/2017/02/lincroyable-histoire-du-chateau.html has however good documentation about his place in Biarritx together with photos of the organ



Best wishes

David P

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Thanks so much for this - I have been away and have not visited the forum in the past week.

Last year I had the opportunity to acquire two historic pianos from the Finchcocks musical museum in Kent.

One is an 1859 Broadwood concert grand - the one hired to Sir Charles Hallé for the Hallé Orchestra and which was purchased by a Manchester businessman for 250gns as it was the most amazing instrument he had ever heard, and the other, a grand of 1802 by Stodart. This can be head on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJonwRwgaeo

For the past decade I have been using the Kellner "Bach" temperament, a temperament based upon 7 perfect fifths and a variant of Werckmeister III

Both these pre-1870s instruments have something significant in common - the Quint harmonic is the principal and prominent harmonic and the tierce is completely absent. In subsequent pianos of the 1880s the Tierce comes forward in the sound often more strongly than the Quint.

The prominence of the Quint in both these and other earlier instruments is suggestive of its importance, and getting as many perfect fifths in the scale tuned spot onto the harmonics of the strings both increases resonance and provides key colour as the keys open doors to different sounds on the vibration spectrum, key colour in "chromatic" music, "chromatic" being not semitonal but related to the Greek word for "colour".

The nomenclature as well as the evidence of Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert being particular about which keys they used for what leads to a certainty that such tuning is what they expected.

It's for these reasons that I'm now starting to talk not about Tnequal Temperament but "Classical Tuning" as these instruments and the change of instrument construction with the adoption of Equal Temperament make the nomenclature of "Classical Temperament" a certainty.

Best wishes

David P

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The spec of the Qrendi instrument is

Principale 8
Voce Umana 8
Ottava 4
Flauto in XII - 12th
Decimaquinta 2 - 15th
Decimanona - 19th (two octaves and fifth)
Vigesimaseconda - 22nd - 1ft
Vigesimasesta - 26th - (three octaves and fifth)
Vigesimanona - 29th - four octaves - half foot

Best wishes

David P

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Organs in danger / Re: Holt Organ needs new home
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:11:00 AM »
Unfortunately there is a technical difficult in uploading the photos at the moment and I have been thwarted in my attempts to help on this. The instrument looks to be in exceptionally good condition and looks to be an excellent practice instrument.

Best wishes

David P

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I don't know. It's definitely a result of no tierces in the mixtures and might be psychological as the Ripieno is progressively built up. It was the 1778 instrument at Qrendi which particularly demonstrated the effect. Unfortunately my camera ran out of memory for video.

The place is an extraordinarily progressive culture of preservation which becomes even more valuable when passionately restored and maintained.

http://www.parroccaqrendi.org/old_organs.html

Robert gave me a copy of the CD of many of the Maltese organs
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2012/May12/Historic_Malta_PRCD1067.htm
and it's very refreshing and charming.

Details of the Qrendi instrument are in the sleeve notes but disc, case and sleeve notes have suffered entropic separation for the moment.

Best wishes

David P

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Organs in danger / Re: Holt Organ needs new home
« on: May 10, 2017, 09:57:30 AM »
This sounds most interesting. Where are you based? Might it be possible to send me a photo? Email antespam><?at:?/(gmail>-*^>dot$%&com

Best wishes

David P

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The point about the Ripieno is that it's a buildup of octaves and fifths. So 8ft and 4ft Principal, then Nazard, Fifteenth, Larigot, 1ft, fifth above that and the octave above that. Of course they break back to the lower octaves at the upper end of the keyboards.

But perhaps people are familiar with the mock 32ft effect by playing fifths on the pedalboard. A fifth produces a beat note an octave below the lower note of the fifth. So as one starts to add octaves and fifths their beats add notes below them, and if these beats are strong enough, they will add octaves lower still. It's for this reason that the Ripieno adds gravitas whilst apparently going higher.

Best wishes

David P

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It's quite well documented in the video. The buildup of sound with the harmonics was surprising and extraordinary. Not piercing and certainly added gravitas. Rather the effect of the French Plein Jeu, but more focussed.

Best wishes

David P

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It was a great pleasure a few weeks ago to be the guest of Robert Buhagiar, the organ builder on Malta and Gozo. I'd imagine that few can have curatorship of more historic instruments than he and the two islands are a gem in the organ world.

On https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD3oPDpTFWA I recorded the sound of one of the ancient instruments of 1769, at Hal Ghaxaq.

We went to see another instrument at Qrendi and this was extraordinary, the sound becoming more grand and more profound as more of the upper Ripieno was added. I imagine that the Ripieno harmonics produce beat frequencies as sub-harmonics, creating a very grand sound.

Best wishes

David P

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Organs wanted / Re: Small pipe organ for a house (organ for study)
« on: March 08, 2017, 06:09:39 PM »
It's worth keeping an eye on http://www.pipeorgans.eu/

Best wishes

David P

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Electronic Organs / Re: David Pinnegar - email
« on: March 08, 2017, 06:05:41 PM »
Hi!

Thanks to GCHQ wanting to Big Brother everyone it's been impossible to log into an email SMTP server to send out emails easily from IP numbers that change every day. So one's forced into using an NSA monitored email account . . . leaving old email addresses to fester :-(

Just so that it's easiest for the NSA to know all about me I use Gmail with the username antespam.

Forum members can actually message through this forum also . . .

Best wishes

David P

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Organ Builders / Re: The Hinsz -Schnitger - Freytag family
« on: March 02, 2017, 10:44:46 PM »
How fascinating? Thanks so much.

Does this instrument possess the record for the greatest proportion of remaining 17th century pipework?

Best wishes

David P

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Organ Builders / Re: Arp Schnitger
« on: February 26, 2017, 01:40:41 AM »
THANK YOU SO MUCH for posting this most interesting and detailed perspective. It's a fascinating story and really intriguing. If anyone can start a similar thread about any other builders the collection of such threads here will be so much more interesting and enthusiasm raising than any facebook group can be.

Best wishes

Harem

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Miscellaneous & Suggestions / Re: Is this forum dead? Is the organ dead?
« on: February 20, 2017, 02:46:35 PM »
Most interesting, adventurous and enterprising.

I'd be minded to put Salicional and Viol de Gamba together and with your 4ft String stop with possibly one detuned for Voix Celeste. One would normally put these in an enclosed division . . . wouldn't one?

I don't know the difference between a Clarabella and a Rohr Flute but wonder if your Great has a bit of duplication with stops which might possibly be enclosed and whether possibly one might think of Tierce or Larigot, or possibly a flute based 2ft?

No doubt you're limited by preconditions imposed by existing soundboards . . .

It would be interesting to hear more expert opinion, David Wilde perhaps or PCND?

Best wishes

David P

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It's amazing how in England the pipe organ seems to be losing relevance whilst in France there are mouth-watering instruments from top to bottom of the country.

In Cannes
http://www.orgues-cannes.org/?page_id=42

Notre Dame de Bon-Voyage


and up north http://www.festivalrivegauche.bzh/les-orgues
Dinard

and nearby a Cavaillé Coll


an English instrument by Alfred Oldknow


At Pleurtuit


and a Nicholson and Lord at St Briac


What do we need to breathe such life into organs in England?

Best wishes

David P

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Miscellaneous & Suggestions / Re: Is this forum dead? Is the organ dead?
« on: February 17, 2017, 07:46:18 PM »
One problem is the ageing of expertise and the reluctance of some of the older generation to engage with the internet. . . .

Best wishes

David P

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Miscellaneous & Suggestions / Re: Is this forum dead? Is the organ dead?
« on: February 16, 2017, 09:05:46 PM »
Thanks so much for your thoughts.

But perhaps it wasn't quite a valid heartbeat monitor as I'm not at all sure that I could tell you what that difference is that one might expect between the Swell Oboe and an Orchestral Oboe :-)

Most instruments one meets in everyday life don't have the two . . .

Any other ideas?

Best wishes

David P

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