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Started by taweorgan23, July 21, 2012, 12:18:10 AM

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taweorgan23

our beloved mynyddbach chapel is being saved from accomodize-ation. and the original pipe organ (a 1930 wood wordsworth) is being revamped from a 2 manual to a 3 manual.  :D
http://www.mynyddbachchapel.com/mynyddbach-organ-projects.php

all things you want to know can be asked from the chapel project leader and minister Grenville Fisher.
the best thing about the organ is its wonderful tonal pallet and it is being supported by a 3 manual hauptwerk organ (st Annes mosely) set up. this is played through a 1000 watt amplifier to 2 peavey pro 15s and 2 peavey bass bins
when the wordsworth organ is back to working order they will be played together for concerts. any help you feel you can give to us in mynyddbach, swansea, please give me a buzz
Cheers
Adam  :)

David Drinkell

Is the organ listed on nPOR?  If not, please send them details.

David Pinnegar

Dear Adam

Thanks so much for joining the forum and drawing it to our attention. This is a project that is so very admirable and really deserves great support, practically from locally as well as in spirit from members of this forum.

What about the pipework from the organ going to be scrapped in Kent this week? Would that be useful for any of your missing ranks?

It's amazing that Hauptwerk is such an inspiration that it's capable of maintaining inspiration for the real instrument alive. But at the same time, the users of the Hauptwerk Forum could be so very much better advised than by the software developers on the experience of the instrument through speakers in any way for the "instrument" resulting to sound in any way realistic. Peavey PA speakers really aren't the most suitable and 1000 watt amplifiers are unnecessarily large. . . . The experience of an organ is different to that of a disco and the resulting representation can only be a crude approximation to the real thing, which if disco effects are desired, will actually be a disappointment in comparison.

Pipe organs, and indeed classical music in general, are more delicate than disco levels of sound can represent.

Our view of classical music needs to re-embrace the quiet, the delicate, and require people to listen in greater detail than is necessary merely to hear . . .

Best wishes for the continued success of the restoration of the pipe organ and looking forward to hearing progress,

David P




taweorgan23

we do not turn the Skytech up too loud David, and the Eq on the system is set at such so the volume (when set at the console ) will fill the space in the right way. we do not intend a disco atmosphere, the speakers are placed as stereo pairs so there are no gaps in sound. we have installed all the pipe chambers with donated pipes, but knowing Gren he will probably want to upgrade in the distant future, as you know, the chapel could not accommodate the number of speakers required for the rich sounding powerhouse that is haptwerk st annes. but i will be making a video to show how we have overcome the problem.

we gratefully appreciate your input and hope to hear from you soon

cheers
Adam

David Pinnegar

Hi!

Great to hear the success of the current arrangement . . . but in general disco speakers do not sound like pipes except where the pitch of the pipe is wholly reproduced from the one unit.

Two way speakers will always sound like a boom with a fizz on top. The middle frequencies blur somewhat between the two units and in that the detail is lost. It's here where the ear is most sensitive and in general in an attempt to hear the detail we expect we simply turn the volume up - and often still don't get the detail we are looking for.

It's in this way that the 20th century, by making notes a mechanically equal distance apart robbed interest from listening to the nuances of the musical keys, rewarding the listener with interest however quiet, removing a dimension, and made music louder, the softness of music being irrelevant . . .  leading progressively to the dehumanisation of what is said to be music in nightclubs constructed by computers for imposition, as rape, upon the ears for the victims to behave like robots and consume alcohol and anything else to dull the pain . . .

So the pipe organ in which air from the lungs of bellows of leather and wood breathes through metal analoges of bones used as pipes will always speak in a way that touches the soul in a way that sound in which bass is disembodied from treble cannot . . .

Best wishes

David P