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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2010, 04:51:22 PM »
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Re: Temperament links
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2010, 07:08:53 PM »
Hi!


Thanks for taking this thread further.


http://www.radfordpiano.com/repertoire.html is an examination of piano tuning suitable for different eras. For the past decade I have had a soft spot for Kellner for 19th century composers.


http://tunersart.com/jorgensenontemperament.pdf is an excellent resume and certainly Owen Jorgensen was a leader in the examination of temperaments


http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=396 is an argument for reverting concert pitch from 440 to 432 (mathematical pitch)


http://www.dolmetsch.com/musictheory27.htm examines sources of different pitch at different times and an examination of temperaments - a mine of information and one wonders if any more can be said on the subjects than appears here?


http://www.millersrus.com/dissertation/ The effects of unequal temperaments on Chopin Mazurkas. This is contemporary with my own assertion to Rose Cholmondeley that the 2nd Sonata demonstrated intent of use of temperament.


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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2010, 04:57:01 PM »
And a couple more,  about modern organs built recently and tuned to 1/4-comma meantone...

http://www.gothic-catalog.com/Buxtehude_and_the_Mean_Tone_Organ_Davidsson_2_CDs_p/lrcd-1090-91.htm

http://www.pasiorgans.com/pdfs/nd06Ambrosino.pdf   
This one also mentions the "Lehmann" temperament employed by a few Taylor and Boody instruments... but only briefly.  It  includes some information on all "known" dual-temperament pipe organs currently on Planet Earth...

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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2010, 03:33:01 AM »
This one also mentions the "Lehmann" temperament employed by a few Taylor and Boody instruments... but only briefly. 


Hi!


I would urge great scepticism on Lehmann's temperament, probably noted elsewhere but mentioning again here for completeness: the premise is based on an upside down interpretation of Bach's squiggle and which is based on no historical or musical precedent. In contrast, Charles Francis reworked the theory based on the squiggle as written, with a result in accordance with Kellner and the historical precedents of Werkmeister and Kirnberger.


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Re: Temperament links
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2010, 01:35:32 PM »
Another article published by the Westfield Center written by an organ builder...

http://westfield.org/public/newsletters/2010-summer.pdf

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2010, 09:40:17 PM »
http://westfield.org/public/newsletters/2010-summer.pdf

Dear Eric

WOW! Thanks for finding this one. Excellent article on Temperament, well worth reading with excellent examples. What is interesting also is the Chopin conference . . . which considers instrument but not issues of temperament - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPvHq8HvTKg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw8FjHvHu30

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Re: Temperament links
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2010, 05:16:29 PM »
Hi!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz0B0SwKpww is the experimental proof of the explanation at the start of
http://www.organmatters.co.uk/index.php?topic=224.0 and
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=emerson+unequal+temperament
is the practical result of an Unequal Temperament tuning in the theoretically "worst" keys

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