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Organ registration / Re: Vox Humanas are horrible
« Last post by David Pinnegar on June 13, 2021, 09:17:08 AM »
The trouble is that sounds and techniques of achieving them change greatly.

The Italian Vox Umani is two flute pipes beating against each other.

The reed version also needs a flute to beat against. If this is done properly as at St Maximin, the sound is sublime. The pipe is very similar to the Cromorne, the transition from Krumhorn to Clarinet, and again at St Maximin built by Isnard in 1775 the sound is sublime.

If anyone has the Hauptwerk St Maximin sampleset perhaps someone might be able to demonstrate. Whilst playing the real instrument the rank of Cromorne is right behind the bench and unsuspectingly one jumps out of one's seat whilst playing.

Best wishes

David P
Organ registration / Re: Vox Humanas are horrible
« Last post by revtonynewnham on June 13, 2021, 08:37:20 AM »

There are Vox's and Vox's!  Authentic registration is a good thing - if the organ you're playing has the relevant authentic voices!  Otherwise it's down to compromise and listening to see what works in the context.

The Vox Humana does seem to have fallen out of favour in recent organs.  Not sure why.  They have their uses.  Also, the Vox Humana (often voiced differently to that in classical organs) is a key component in the cinema organ sound.

Every Blessing

Organ registration / Re: Vox Humanas are horrible
« Last post by dragonser on June 13, 2021, 07:55:48 AM »
I can only assume that People's taste may have changed over the years ? But it is a good question as to whether the " Authentic" registration should always be used ?
I don't know !
Organ registration / Vox Humanas are horrible
« Last post by Nazard Celeste on June 12, 2021, 11:16:54 PM »
I have never seen the point of them after over 40 years of organ scholarship and professional playing. Human voice? More like a dying crow. Organists use 'correct' sounds regardless of whether they're any good -- one of the various foibles of our profession that tend to drive away audiences.
What became of it, any idea?
Local Organist Associations / Asia? Africa? etc.
« Last post by Nazard Celeste on June 12, 2021, 11:12:21 PM »
If anybody here can enlighten us on the state of organist orgs outside the 'first world' it'd be great, notably in Latin America. I fear there's simply nothing there anymore.
Organ Music and Repertoire / Re: Repertoire for Single Manual with Pedals
« Last post by Nazard Celeste on June 12, 2021, 11:00:10 PM »
The sky's the limit. Raid piano and harmonium lit -- also harp, guitar etc.
In case you haven't already gotten all these, here's the Britten

Watch that page for the others, create and save searches for them in Ebay and note the 'save this search' link. Write publishers and ask them to reissue. Write performers and ask if they know where to purchase -- searching these items almost exclusively brings up recordings, huh. 
Organs in danger / Re: ORGAN STOPS - saving the King of Instruments
« Last post by Alexg on June 12, 2021, 09:53:12 PM »
Hello all, I am new to the forum and have been looking through previous discussions with interest.

When will the full version of "ORGAN STOPS - saving the king of instruments" be available?

Best wishes from London,

The problem for the EOCS (Electronic Organ Constructors Society) is that the membership is dominated by folk of my age (70+) who are probably the last generation who actually used a soldering iron and built complicated things for themselves.   We used to add contacts to a keyboard, now you can buy a midi controller keyboard for 60 or so.  We used to build electronics to generate the frequencies and tones, now everyone just downloads and uses someone else's software package with real samples and the result is infinitely better.  It has never been easier for keen amateurs to put together a "Virtual Organ" that can fit into any home.  The EOCS knows this, but it must reach out to music schools, promote the late Carlo Curly, the current Cameron Carpenter and maybe a lot of other less showy professionals.  With the dwindling church membership, something must be done to make the young want to play organs.
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