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Title: Has anyone considered.............
Post by: KB7DQH on March 31, 2013, 11:16:18 AM
...................stained, blown glass pipework?  A recent post here got me to thinking, as I have had this concept rattling around in the back of my alleged mind for quite some time now... and I thought to finally present the "collaborative concept" which in many respects combines two of the art-forms commonly found within the "worship space" which normally would in some (many?) instances ordinarily present a practical and aesthetic conflict... for which after resolving some "technical difficulty" might instead present an intriguing opportunity? 

And it so happens that one of the premier, globally-recognized blown-glass artists (Dale Chihuly)  as well as two of this country's most respected organ builders (Paul Fritts and Martin Pasi)  happen to have their fabrication facilities located within the same county?

??? ??? ??? ???

Eric...
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Title: Re: Has anyone considered.............
Post by: KB7DQH on June 16, 2014, 02:26:12 PM
"Read" over 260 times and this is the only reply :-[ ??? :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Has anyone considered.............
Post by: David Drinkell on June 17, 2014, 05:40:00 AM
A problem would be that pipes made like this would be very difficult to voice. While one could perhaps file down the lips, such things as the optimum position of the languid and delicate nicking would seem to be virtually impossible.  I suppose one could make a type of traverse flute, blown externally - it's been done before - but the difficulties would seem to outweigh any benefits.
Title: Re: Has anyone considered Pespex pipes ?
Post by: dragonser on June 17, 2014, 12:52:26 PM
Hi,
I won't suggest using perspex ( acrylic ) or a simlar material as I think it is difficult to work with ?
Wood and Metal do seem to have advantages here and can at least be painted.
I have also heard ( I think ) of plastic pipes being used where there was the problem of the lead pipes being stolen.
regardsPeter B
Title: Re: Has anyone considered blown glass or perspex pipes
Post by: David Pinnegar on June 19, 2014, 11:20:58 AM
Hi!

Glass pipes could be used quite easily as the resonators mounted on conventional metal to the languid . . . sitting on a rim soldered on. The effect could be extraordinarily beautiful and Helmholtz would have approved.

Plastic drain pipes were used by an amateur in the 1990s in Hastings - sadly I have lost his details - but he made a home organ with such pipes as well as a more extensive church instrument for a church in Czech Republic where metal theft was feared.

It would be interesting to see someone else take on the idea. They were plastic drain pipes from the local builders' merchant

Best wishes

David P
Title: Re: Has anyone considered blown glass or perspex pipes
Post by: JBR on June 19, 2014, 10:58:16 PM
Quote from: David Pinnegar on June 19, 2014, 11:20:58 AM
Hi!

Glass pipes could be used quite easily as the resonators mounted on conventional metal to the languid . . . sitting on a rim soldered on. The effect could be extraordinarily beautiful and Helmholtz would have approved.

Plastic drain pipes were used by an amateur in the 1990s in Hastings - sadly I have lost his details - but he made a home organ with such pipes as well as a more extensive church instrument for a church in Czech Republic where metal theft was feared.

It would be interesting to see someone else take on the idea. They were plastic drain pipes from the local builders' merchant

Best wishes

David P

That's interesting.  How did he get around the variations in scale?  Or did the sound get very much more 'flutey' as he went up to the top of the keyboard?!
Title: Re: Has anyone considered.............
Post by: KB7DQH on August 11, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
Apparently it has already been done... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAi6yDxXWl0

Eric
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