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1721
Hi!

Mark Shepherd is performing again at Hammerwood. Friday 18th June 7.45pm.

PLEASE telephone 01342 850594 to let us know that you are coming. It's great not to have a last minute panic on the number of seats. . .

He describes the programme:
"Walton's Orb and Sceptre (arr McKie/Shepherd)  - because it's fun,
Bach An die wasserflussen Babylon, double pedal one, - because it's sublimely beautiful;
Bach Christ unser Herr zum Jordan Kamm, - because it manages to be both profound and lively;
the sicilienne from the Suite of Duruflé - because every meal needs a sorbet, and the
Carillon Sortie of Mulet - because I should have learnt it 25 years ago but need to now "

As you can tell, Mark is great fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgYkHA128ws
As a performer also he impresses me not only for his technique  but because he performs relaxed, taking it all in his stride and being very human
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uj9MORwoF0
and making it all seem so easy.

These videos were made before I discovered how to replace the camera sound with a proper CD quality recording. In real life the organ sounds much better than these videos . . . but the delight of the instrument is firstly versatility in being able to represent any of the repertoire of the King of Instruments to concert audiences and secondly in groundbreaking presentation of music experimenting with temperament and registration, breaking away from often accepted norms which can be responsible for public perception of the organ and of classical music as "boring".

Best wishes

David P

1722
Organ concerts / Hugh Potton at Boxgrove Priory on 3rd and 5th June
« on: May 16, 2010, 08:41:32 PM »
Boxgrove Priory Festival.

Full details on
http://www.boxgrovepriory.co.uk/20100501%20-%20M%20at%20B.pdf.

He's performing in two concerts, the first being a chamber music evening on Thursday 3/6/10 with members of the Chilingirian String Quartet, the second a piano concerto double bill with the Boxgrove Festival Orchestra, featuring the Beethoven 'Emperor' and Rachmaninov's third Piano Concerto.

Best wishes

David P

1723
Hi!

Friday, 21st May 2010 at 7.30pm

GUILMANT: March on a theme of Handel, Op.15
FESTING: Largo, Aria & VAriations (arr. Thalben-Ball)
LISZT: Symphonic Poem 'Orpheus' (arr. Guillou)
PAINE: Concert Variations on the Austrian Hymn, Op.3
BOSSI: Toccata di Concerto, Op.118 No.5

DUPRE: Scherzo
VIERNE: Naiades, Op.55 No.4
WIDOR: Andante Cantabile (Symphonie Op.13 No.4 in F minor)
GARDONYI: Grand-Choeur
WAGNER: Pilgrims Chorus (arr. Liszt)
GRISON: Toccata

 

Tickets £15 (Friends of the Welte Organ £7.50)  from 01892 507609 or boxoffice@salomons.org.uk

www.tunbridgewellsfestival.co.uk

www.salomonscentre.org.uk

www.darcytrinkwon.com

One of the leading international virtuoso organists of his generation, D’Arcy has been described as “The Nureyev of organists”; his extraordinary pedal technique is famous. He will perform a typically varied, colourful and thrilling programme – including some works specifically to show off the remarkable Welte organ. 

The unique Welte organ, built in 1914 and recently restored to its full playing glory is housed in the splendid oak-panelled Victorian Science Theatre – an important and fascinating historic venue. 

The setting of this magnificent 36 acre estate is breathtaking; so arrive early to enjoy the views of the rolling parkland and lakes and take refreshments on the terrace. 

Why not book in for pre-concert supper?

Salomons
Broomhill Road
Southborough
Tunbridge Wells
Kent TN3 0TG

Best wishes

David P

1724
Hi!

My gut feeling is that hydraulic fluid has more mass than air and hydraulics have to be hermetically sealed. Using conventional pistons with ring seals which deteriorate and introduce friction together with the mass of a piston, will all add forces to the touch. In contrast, a minor leak on a pneumatic will contaminate only air with air and with the low mass of a gas and low mass of, for instance, pneumatic pouches, other than electrics, pneumatics are the right way to have gone . . .

If you ever have the opportunity to play a French suspended action tracker instrument, you would not dream of wanting anything else

Best wishes

David P

1725
Dear Eric

Sadly transportation failed us on account of the volcanic ash and visitors for this weekend from UK and Belgium including friends of the famous Formentelli organ builders couldn't come. I hope that we'll start to see good photos and hear good recordings.

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Anyway, to call this the most exciting organ in three centuries is, surely, to dismiss countless wonderful organs built since the dawn of the Romantic era?

When I was young in architecture I loved the Gothic and loathed the Greek. Now I love the Greek and tolerate the Gothic. So it is with this series of organs. It's significant that the Albi pipework was comprehensible enough to the romantic era to have been "preserved" by incorporation into the romanticisation of the beast, restored by putting all the romantic stuff into another organ up the road . . . leaving . . . pure gold.

Best wishes

David P

1726
Electronic Organs / Re: hi!
« on: May 09, 2010, 09:58:47 PM »
Hi!

I have read about it before but again not had access to a Sound Canvas device . . . and am wondering really what the best sort of equipment is to replay soundfont type or other sample sets.

I have a chamber organ which would be great to do a sample set of . . . but as I don't run Hauptwerk, Hauptwerk won't give me the spec with which a sample set should comply. It's a loss to the Hauptwerk community and I'll probably make it available for something else and SCPOP looks interesting

Best wishes

David P

1727
Microphone placement is critical to the success of ANY audio recording made of anything, as well as the type of microphone and the equipment it feeds.  . . .  The camera audio, although good for a consumer-grade video recorder, is not without its limitations... the digital recording made with much better microphones (and placement 8) being far better

Hi!

Yes - very direct experience of this - particularly at St Maximin with
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSf7-4t_SWc recorded with a proper recorder and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrL7vdnibw with the camera sound. The proper recording is significantly degraded by video compression which progressively loses the top octaves of frequencies on higher sound levels.

These effects are even more pronounced on videos of my own concert instrument when recorded by the camera as they would be when taking any camera into an organ loft within 4 metres of the trumpet pipes, as demonstrated again at St Maximin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81JzrpXMB14

In these days of armchair travelling instead of real experiences, people are getting very imbalanced and plastic views of the outside world, including organs.

Plastic . . . even listening through Lowthers http://www.lowtherloudspeakers.com/
is a recording which can only approximate to a live performance so how can anyone judge any sound through plastic speakers common nowadays, let alone through computer speakers and their poor audio paths . . .

Best wishes

David P

1728
Atheists' Corner / Re: God is not big daddy
« on: May 04, 2010, 07:08:43 PM »
I tend to stick to my own version of 'intelligent design' - that Darwinian evolution did and does happen, and that there was a big bang, and that the Earth and all around it have evolved over millions of years

Well, actually that's one view of the whole point. It all came to happen because the laws of the universe, the laws of space, of matter with gravitation and electromagnetic fields all combine to cause it to happen. There is a sort of harmony between all that must happen, a quantum connectivity too, and there is a lot happening in the dimensions of which we cannot be directly aware. In all this there is the omnipresent, the omnipotent and the invisible.

The other day I was hosting a school party and I remarked to them of the miracle of DNA at Hammerwood Park. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIj6fWRl8-A

How does anyone possibly think that primeval simple elements in a primordial soup can come together to form proteins and that simply four of those proteins can come together in a structured way on a double helix that just happens to be a self replicating computer programme that is a self-building machine for organisms to self build and replicate . . . ?

Isn't it too much of a miracle for it all to have happened by itself?

How did Windows 3.1 develop into Windows 95 and Windows 95 develop into 98. Millennium edition, 2000, NT, XT Vista etc etc? Did it evolve on computers without intervention or was it engineered progressing one version to the next?

Best wishes

David P

1729
Organs in danger / Re: Tiny two-manual under threat of scrapping
« on: April 28, 2010, 11:21:49 AM »
Hi!

Yes - point accepted - but now I come to think of it there is another instrument of which I'm aware in England where opto electronic sensors have been installed on the tracker keyboards to excellent effect. There is also another method where a soundboard has facility for a "clamp on" where the wind can be piped to puffpads attached to contacts or even another higher tech technique.

I'm not saying that this is the proper or appropriate route for all small organs . . . but it can certainly enable significant frustration to be overcome. The organist at our local church would love just a 2ft and a shiny trumpet for wedding voluntaries.

If instruments can serve as they were built, of course, all the better.

Have you contacted the school to see what is happening with this instrument and why they are getting rid of it?

Best wishes

David P

1730
Organs in danger / Re: Tiny two-manual under threat of scrapping
« on: April 27, 2010, 07:06:18 PM »
Hi!

At risk of being controversial, isn't this just the sort of non-historic pipe organ which could be saved by being made more interesting and retained essentially as a pipe organ by adding some modest electronic extensions? An extra pedal stop, an extra 4ft somewhere, a 2ft, perhaps a Sesquialtra and a reed? It need not develop into a monster toaster but could be kept true to its integrity but offering much greater versatility and interest.

This is exactly the case where UK and European pipe organ builders are shooting themselves in the foot by preventing any incorporation of electronics as such instruments as these are often seen as a waste of space for the spec they provide and as such are ripe to be toasted.

I'm aware of two very successful UK organs which have incorporated a modicum of electronic stops and
http://forum.hauptwerk.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6642
details another in the US

Certainly this organ would be an ideal candidate as a house organ and an instrument on which anyone might experiment with some modest additions . . .

Best wishes

David P

1731
Organ courses / Re: And the Masterclass at St. Cecilia's...
« on: April 27, 2010, 11:59:51 AM »
Hi!

Brilliant! Sounds exciting!

St Cecilia's where? Is there a link to the masterclass website? A link to details of the organ?

Many thanks

Best wishes

David P

1732
Organ concerts / Re: FUTUR CONCERTS of ERIC DALEST
« on: April 27, 2010, 11:57:18 AM »
Dear Eric

BRILLIANT - thanks. It's wonderful to have a glimpse of enthusiasms here. Perhaps on each concert you might announce it a fortnight beforehand, tell people what you are playing (and why etc etc) and perhaps tell them a bit about the organ that you're playing on each occasion and what you love about it. In the course of time, this will feed the fires of enthusiasm. We have to show to people who have not been to an organ recital before the sort of excitement that they are missing out on . . .

With concerts in France, Spain, Italy or Germany, please do write in French, Spanish, Italian or German.

Encouraging people to come to organ recitals has to be a really wide cultural thing that has to cross the bounds of languages, of which English is not universal, and nationalities.

I have a client
http://www.initaly.co.uk/rome/fiuggi.accommodation.apartment.montecassino/
with whom I was discussing their "Unique Selling Point" of encouraging people to stay in Fiuggi, comparing it with Rieti where the organ there is causing hotels to be filled, and my client said that there are a number of cathedrals locally with superb organs but that audience levels had dropped to the point where good organists refused to go there.

So really without setting alight the fires of the boilers of enthusiasm, the King of Instruments will lose wind.

Best wishes

David P

1733
Organ concerts / Re: FUTUR CONCERTS of ERIC DALEST
« on: April 26, 2010, 08:10:47 PM »
Dear Eric

Brilliant - thanks for posting here . . . But please could you tell us what programme you are playing where, and why you LOVE what you are proposing to play and why you are so enthusiastic to play that programme on the organ at the venue you have chosen to play at?

Best wishes

David P

1734
Atheists' Corner / Re: God is not big daddy
« on: April 26, 2010, 08:07:31 PM »
Hi!

It turns out that Plato, around 23 centuries ago, was "on to something" in modern physics. The 3 dimensional solidity that we experience is, according to modern physics, an illusory 3 dimensional shadow of 6 dimensional space. Our 3 dimensional solidity has an existence in each of the other 3 dimensions which we cannot see. It's these that we turn our heads around to see but can't quite glimpse, the realms in which the "godworld" inhabits, invisible, everywhere and all powerful, having an influence in the realm in which we live.

Plato described it as us being entrapped in a cave where all we could experience of the outside was that of the shadows on the walls of the figures in the outside world, and our understanding of the reality being unable to surpass the mere shadows as our reality.

The teaching of religions is that when one cooperates with the gracious forces that form the cosmos, the force flows through you in such a way that you may become conscious of it and you can work as part of it and with it. It's a state of being, a state in harmony with all the universal laws of all creation and this extends to our relationships with other people.

Before Christ, love was familial, tribal. It was simply a power-unit, the protection provided by which enabled groups to cooperate internally and to thrive. But after Christ, the cooperation with the harmony of natural laws enabled the injunction to "love God" and to "love your neighbour as yourself", extending cooperation to enable individuals to rise above the bounds of mere blood-ties.

Hope this makes a little sense . . .

Best wishes

David P

1735
Electronic Organ Constructors' Society
http://www.eocs.org.uk

1736
Miscellaneous & Suggestions / Re: Stumbled onto...
« on: April 26, 2010, 07:15:44 PM »
I did spot a thread describing the difficulty of finding a home for what amounts to a monster of an analog electronic organ, which had been made redundant by a Real Pipe Organ 8) 8) 8)

Dear Eric

This is one of the real reasons behind this forum. "Proper" use of electronics is that of temporary installations for particular purposes and also potentially tonal research, in addition of course to home practice. And as such I consider that some degree of electronic discussion can be valid and useful . . . and threads such as this which can draw attention to the follies of those who mistakenly think that electronics can provide a permanent solution, I regard as very valuable to the survival of pipe organs. However, elsewhere, electronic discussion is wholly prohibited and I was censored in rather a surprising place for having castigated the decision to replace the pipe organ at Holy Trinity Wall Street by a digital. I said that "digital stops are cheap" and this upset a number of people. But it's true! Computer sampling the noise of a rank of pipes must be cheaper than making a set of pipes . . . unless of course it's a case of the Emperor's New Clothes . . . I think that many gizmo manufacturers rely on a certain mystique to really push their prices up. In my collection of vinyl LPs, I've got one which was clearly a marketing gimmic by a well known firm about organ voicing . . . It's nothing to do with voicing except in pointing out the difference perhaps between a Bourdon and a Flute, and perhaps for fun auditioning it should be on the agenda of the EOCS http://www.eocs.org.uk

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Some stuff in the thread about "not being able to get parts", etc... ;D ;D ;D


Even some nice low noise basic op-amps are now getting hard to find and as software driven computers take over, hard wired chips have long been fried.

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After filtering out some of the "noise" over there...
methinks the "church world" is finding out the expensive way that where there is space for the "real thing" in the long run it will end up being less expensive and more enjoyable than something that "sounds like"...  What the gizmo sellers aren't telling church congregations is the service life of the electronic can never approach that of a pipe organ >:(   

My leviathan that I use at Hammerwood Park, for the purpose of putting the King of Instruments on the concert platform specifically to demonstrate the King of Instruments in a way that a nice 11 rank instrument really can't for the purposes of that sort of concert, is great fun, requires the intellect of a 747 pilot to fly and challenges even the best of organists not to crash, has so many wires which can easily become disconnected, buttons pressed inadvertantly, memories to set that it really does require a flight-check procedure before every trip up the runway. Sometimes for no apparent reason a stop on the Choir goes on holiday, although as it is near duplicated by one of 170 or so more stops it's not a great worry, and reed switches on the pedals are not as permanently reliable as the proponents of modern technology would like you to think they are . . .

But it's exciting and versatile, and hopefully inspirational
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9usBggyS5Nk although  :-[  :'( it will never match
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPGDiA3fidA or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSf7-4t_SWc


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One of the few places a "large" electronic has an advantage over "pipe" is, depending on how its configured, is transportability...
;D You must be joking! 30 channels of amps and speakers . . . All those wires to connect up at a new venue!? No way! When I first bought the ex LondonDerry Cathedral instrument, I thought it would be transportable so that I could hire it out - but even lumping a dozen channels of speakers from one end of the house to the other and getting the wiring right was a marathon.

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such an instrument on hand, venues typically employed by traveling musical acts
such as rock bands that want to do "something completely different". But for now they will have to suffer along with looped samples playing into stacks of speakers ;)
;D And unless they are top notch physicist designed speakers, it will still sound like an organ through a hi-fi system. I heard Carlo Curley playing a state of the art  commercial instrument (not his usual brand) at a church near Eastbourne in Sussex. Terrible speakers, poor installation, and I would have rather stayed at home and listened to my hi-fi system playing one of my live recordings . . . and the single manual pipe organ at the church knocked the digital electronic sideways.

Best wishes

David P

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Electronic Organs / Re: MIDI INTERFACE USB FOR 37 STOPS REAL HAUPTWERK
« on: April 25, 2010, 10:43:38 PM »
Dear Eric

THanks for posting details of these - brilliant. It's quite difficult to interface real drawstops so your solution is brilliant.

By the way, I do hope that you'll put details of your concerts here on the concert announcement section and tell everyone why you are performing whatever programme you are, why you love it, and why you have chosen the venue/instrument.

We'd love to see you in England sometime! . . .

Best wishes

David P

1738
Dear Eric

Below is a brilliant solution  . . . lightweight and non-valuable materials immune to vandalisation for the value of the metal. Unfortunately some time ago I lost the contact details of the man who made this home instrument and the church instrument for a church, I believe, in the Czech Republic. He used standard drain pipes and all sorts of other domestic materials.





Best wishes

David P

1739
Harpsichords / Re: I want one
« on: April 24, 2010, 10:33:31 PM »
well I checked ebay today and the only one I found was a Digital one !
which is fine unless you get a fault with the electronics and find you can't get spares ......
of course acoustic instruments don't have the same problem with spares.
( different ones maybe I guess ! )

Hi!

Well, it's not the only thing wrong with digital harpsichords. First, the touch is far from the same and is so much part of the playing of the instrument and secondly, it's a sterilised sound. In the past weeks a pop group have been recording at Hammerwood and have been using real instruments . . . and the real harpsichord sounds SO much more ALIVE than the electronic substitutes.

Best wishes

David P

1740
Hi!

A friend on this forum rang me up the other day asking about how our Godson had fared at a Special Educational Needs and Disability Tribunal with regard to his former school on the south coast of England which blazens the labels of Christianity from its rooftops. When he was diagnosed with epilepsy, the school made life difficult for him and another school found a place for him at a very difficult time.

At the Disability Tribunal Barrister and Labour Party Parliamentary Candidate John McKendrick http://www.johnmckendrick.com/ argued to the last that our Godson's epilepsy was not a disability. Our Godson had on one occasion fallen off his bicycle only to regain consciousness to find that a passing motorist had stopped to see whether he was OK.

The Tribunal found for our Godson that the school had discriminated against him.

It's so sad that a so called Christian School and its legal advisors and representatives don't heed the Christian texts including Mark chapter 9 in which the symptoms of epilepsy are clearly  documented as a disability.

Just because a so called Christian organisation doesn't abide by the practices and teachings of the religion it is said to follow does not rubbish the religion nor be sufficient cause for atheists to excuse themselves from investigation of its teachings . . .

Best wishes

David P

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